Sinai Thunder Sales Page 

Please scroll below to read our Sales Policy & Pricing Chart.

We are in the process of downsizing---and at this writing, have sold over 30% of our still-too-many herd. However, now we are at the point of ***trying*** to select goats that were meant to be our keepers---we just have too many. Its a blessing that I don't take lightly---so, placing these animals in the right homes is of the utmost importance. Many have requested to be placed on a list (other than babies). Its been a very slow process, but we are earnestly trying to fulfill these reservations for adult does as well as dry yearlings.
We may have a few babies available after weaning---so, please check our Sales or Kidding pages often, as the animals now being offered are from of our best stock and will go quickly. (Most of whom, we have retained the litter-mates) Other than an occasional mention on FB, I don't "advertise" because I want our goats to go to selected homes who will give them the best of care, providing quality homes to ensure their best potential.  

Once listed, you'll find the high points of each pedigree with a link embedded in the sire/dam for you to click on to get to their page for more info. (Pictures are on the to-do list)

 

7/20/17----

You may recall, we were blessed to have several different herds join ours over the past year. While we were certainly at max capacity each time, we knew it was the Lord's leading and felt honored to be a part of His plan. 

Now that the dust has settled a bit---and, with a LOT of prayer, we are putting together a sizable sales list. 

I'm putting the available bucks up first---bc, frankly--- it's just easier and since we are reducing the does to be bred, we will have too many really nice boys out there who will not be used. (The list for Doe Sales will be coming out the first part of Aug)

As you're aware, we are VERY picky about which bucks stay intact (having wethers out of some of our LA90 does). We felt led to keep many of our bucks until their daughters excelled in DHI or LA/Classification or both---with the majority having (or will have) their +*S, +*B status. Its taken a while (years), but by sticking to those goals, we have worked very hard to improve upon each of our foundation lines. Now that we've been able to clip everyone (Classification was a great motivator), we can better evaluate the boys with the main goal to get them into the right homes. This all may sound easy, but goodness---I can make a case to keep every single goat in our barn. Clearly not realistic. 

Also please note---we have either retained sons, daughters, or sisters) from these older bucks who out of our best does---hopefullly ensuring ongoing success to each buck up for sale. Pictures---left to right.

Sinai Thunder T Be Mine *B *S (Sale Pending)

Sinai Thunder ASHER'S Levi *B *S (polled)

Sinai Thunder Benneditto *B (Sale Pending)

Sinai Thunder H  Hope's Warrior *B *S (polled) (Sold)

Sinai Thunder Solomon *B *S (Sale Pending)

Adults: 

Sinai Thunder T Be Mine *B *S DOB: 2/14/13---(CapraKoza TR Tevye *B *S---[CH Lost Valley JL Tradition x GCH Black-eyed Susie 2*M *DAR, AGS Top 10) x SG Kaapio Acres HH Redemption *M *DAR, ADGA Elite). We were very excited to get Be Mine back, knowing we couldn't use breed him to a bunch of our does---bc he's related to so many. We still love this buck and decided to breed him as much as we could, then offer him back up for sale. His pedigree is FULL of Finished Ch's and/or Top 10 Milkers. His dam, Red, is very close to 6000# over 5 lactations, has been Breed Leader 3x in AGS (& Record setting for production: 8.1# in 1Day Test, her high is 1320# for 305) Be Mine's sire (Tevye) has a half brother who is a Finished Ch buck, and producer of Finished CH's. Tevye 's daughter recently classified 93.2E, highest to ever score from the Appraiser. And, two of his sons should be +*B +*S sires within the year, making Tev a +*B +*S. Be Mine has 2 daughters who have earned their Milk Stars, one of which made AGS Top 10 & could go over 1000# this lactation. He's been bred to several of our finest Oliver daughters (will kid this Fall) and as mentioned, he's related so many in our herd, he deserves to be re-homed where he'll be bred. $700 (Sale Pending)

Sinai Thunder ASHER'S Levi *B *S 86.9 DOB 6/14 (Polled) Levi is a Roaning buckskin. Height 23 1/8" (Spring 2017) (Sinai Thunder AG Asher +*B +*S (pending) x SG Little Tots Estate ST Tiqvah 2*M *DAR 91.3E) Levi recently scored in the 90's for  Style, length of Bone, & Masculinity (General Appearance), Back, Topline, & Rump, Angularity (Dairyness). (FS:86.9VG) Sire is Asher +*S +*B (Pending) VVV87. Paternal Dam (Charity) is 3x GCH, 1x BIS, EEEV90, SG, Elite, Top 10 305 & 1Day, 1000#+ Milker and dam of an E93.2 Classified doe, as well as 2 other daughters that are SG, 1000# + milkers (one of which could be the Breed Leader and possibly Record Holder for AGS Top 10 in 2017. Levi's dam (Tiqvah) is SG, ADGA Elite, E91.3, Top 10 305, 1Day, 1000#+ milker. (Dam of EEEE92 SG daughter, 2 +*S +*B sons)  $600

Sinai Thunder Benneditto *B DOB:11/21/15---LIttle Tots Estate Bellissimo +*B +S VEE89 x SG Kaapio Acres HH Redemption *M *DAR, VEEE90 ADGA Elite Doe, 1380#, #1 Doe AGS 1DAY 3 times, 2 categories---setting records in two: Production 8.1#, Overall Score 108. Top 10 ADGA & AGS 305 Day, multiple categories, years. Benni's sire is the Whose-WHO of Little Tots Estate. Nearly everyone in his pedigree is LA90'd or Finished Ch's (or both). His litter sister (Bella, a FF) milked 5.6# her 1st Test, 5.2# her 2nd Test. (600# in 134 days) $750 (Sale Pending)

2016 Bucks: 

Sinai Thunder H  Hope's Warrior *B *S DOB: 11/16 polled Red/white (Sinai Thunder ASH Hyssop Dip *B *S EEV90 x SG Little Tots Estate ST Tiqvah 2*M *D 91.3E) Hyssop's dam (Dipp'n Dots *M *D) is SGCH/PGCH/ARMCH VEEE90 Top 10 Milker. Producer of Rsv Nat'l Jr CH doe, multiple progeny LA/Classify w 90's. Dot's sire is 2x National Champion Buck. Hyssop's Paternal Dam (Charity) is 3x GCH, 1x BIS, EEEV90, SG, Elite, Top 10 305 & 1Day, 1000#+ Milker. Dipper's dam (Dipp'n Dots *M *D) is SGCH/PGCH/ARMCH VEEE90 Top 10 Milker. Producer of Rsv Nat'l Jr CH doe, multiple progeny LA/Classify w 90's. Dot's sire is 2x National Champion Buck.Warrior's half sister (Abby), a FF recently scored in the 90's for General Appearance & Dairy, especially in Front End & Rump/Topline/Back. $850 (Sold)

2017 Bucklings: Sinai Thunder Solomon *B *S DOB: 3/17--- Flashy white w black (Sinai Thunder YAH's Lil Dipper *S *B x AR Sinai Thunder AG Duchess 2*M 2*DAR VEVV88---as a FF) Solomon's sire (Dipper) is out of SGCH/PGCH/ARMCH Lost Valley TB Dipp'n Dots *M *D VEEE90, Top 10 Milker. Producer of Rsv Nat'l Jr CH doe, multiple progeny LA/Classify w 90's. Dot's sire is 2x National Champion. Dipper's paternal dam (Tiqvah) is SG, ADGA Elite, E91.3, Top 10 305, 1Day, 1000#+ milker. Tiqvah is the dam of EEEE92 SG daughter, 2 +*S +*B sons. In fact, both of Solomon's Paternal Grandsires are +*B +*S bucks. Solomon's dam (Duchess) has always been one of our favorites as soon as she hit the ground---she was a TOP FF last year, making Nat'l Top 10, and has an even prettier udder this year. Her Milk Test High this lactation is 4.6# (twice) and having had quads, I expect her to go over 1000#. When we dried her off last year, her PE was 89%. Her dam (Redemption) is SG, Elite, VEEE90, Top 10 Milker, <1400#, #1 Doe in Nation in 3 categories, setting records in 2. $700 (Sale Pending)

If you are interested in further info or I can answer any questions, please-- just contact me---

right now, the SinaiThunder@Gmail.com is probably best, or feel free to call.

 

 

                                  Sales Policy and Procedures

First---one of my greatest joys is matching up the right goat(s) with the right owner. But please know, as much as I am committed to selling you the animal that fits your needs and don't foresee any issues,  I do maintain the right to retain any goat, at any time. And, I thank you for your understanding.

I DO plan each breeding with the intention of using them for my future breeding stock.
Obviously retaining every baby isn't realistic---so, here's my sales policy:

I like things simple, so I do not require a deposit from a breeding. Just contact me (via email, so we both have a record) to reserve the kid(s) of a particular breeding you're interested in (before birth). I'll keep track of reservations according to the date we are contacted. I will notify you when I get your reservation, as well as when the kid(s) are weaned. Unless arrangements have previously been made, you have 48 hrs to make your decision. If I don't hear from you, then I'll contact the next name on the list. 

Once I get your commitment (via email), I require a $100 deposit within 5 days. If we don't receive payment, you place me in the position of contacting the next person on the list. To make it easier for you: we do accept PayPal. l will also take cash, money order, or a check. Please note: if you are paying by check, it MUST be cleared 10 business days AHEAD of departure.

In the event something happens between time of birth and pickup, I'll gladly refund your deposit or apply it toward a baby that would also fit your needs, whichever you prefer.

Because we dam raise, there will be at least an 8-10 week wait on bucklings (unless special circumstances arise). For doe kids, it may end up being as much as 6 months (or longer), before your doeling is available for pick-up. You will need to have the junior paid in-full at the time, or before you pick it up. Please note,  there will be no exceptions. Although I would not expect to do so, I do reserve the right to refuse a sale without explanation and at that time, any deposit would be immediately refunded. 

Any and all costs associated with shipping or transportation, including any health certificates/related testing, crates, etc., are the responsibility of the buyer.  Show Stock will be free of disqualifying faults at the time of pick up. However, once they leave our farm, there are no other guarantees to the future health, height, or quality of the animal.

On occasion we have requests to breed a doe that we have for sale. Please know we are very happy to do so---but she must be paid for in advance.

There...the Disclaimers are done!!!!  Now for our Pricing Policy....


We take great pride in our breeding program and are very blessed at the results we've seen. However because we Dam Raise, I end up very attached to the babies and found it increasingly difficult to determine who to sell, as well as a fair amount to charge. After viewing the sales policy at Buttin'Heads Farm, I felt it was a superb format in which to price the ones we do decide to sell. (Many thanks goes to Tom Rucker).

Our Pricing Chart (below) was adjusted to fit our program.  As you can see, the price of  kids are based on the accomplishments of the dam in 3 areas: Linear Appraisal, Milk programs (DHIR &/or 1Day), plus Show successes. Does with exceptional records may have kids priced higher than the chart. In addition, bc we are blessed to have fabulous bucks with some of the nicest pedigrees & achievements in the industry, the kid price will also include the accomplishments of their sire's dam.

Please note: I feel this industry only needs the highest caliber of herd sires; thus, we are very selective on which buck kids will be sold intact. So, the few offered will be priced the same price as the doelings. And, because genetics are out of our control, not every combination turns out the way we plan. (i.e. the combination of two fabulous animals can sometimes still result in a pet-quality animal) If this happens, the price for such an animal will be adjusted accordingly.

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For example:

****a kid out of a *M/*DAR doe ($500 + $50), that milked 900# (+$25) with an E for Mammary on LA (+$50), and won her Jr GCH (+$50) would be priced at $675. 

Note: the prices in each column are added according to the succeeding accomplishment:

****a kid whose Dam has earned her *M/*DAR ($500+ $50), that milked 1100# (+$25, +$25), and was awarded Top 10 Milk Awards (+50) would be $650. (if she was Breed Leader, an additional $50 added to make the price $700)

****a kid whose paternal Dam has earned her SG, Elite, & milked over 1000# will be an additional $75. In the case of Oliver (all 4 categories), $100 added to the kid's price. 

(Please note that these prices are for pre-reserved kids only.  Once kids are born, prices may be increased.)

A final thought: Our emphasis is to raise (and offer) high quality goats. To ensure correct conformation, we annually participate in Linear Appraisal (ADGA) and/or Classification (AGS). To provide the best of Dairy genetics, we keep our girls on a year round Milk Testing program, called DHIR, where we test monthly for 305 days, and/or also do 1Day tests as well. In doing so, we have found that the mamas do best when they are kept with their babies and not be separated at birth, having the babies placed on bottles. Because we are now honing in on a few specific lines---my goal is to maximize the potential of each doe, including her daughter(s). That said, and based on some serious misjudgments on my part in the past, I plan to keep at least one (or more) of the daughters from First Fresheners. The reason is simple. We have found: 1) The doe will milk (and test) better with her babies nursing. 2) The production numbers of a doe (esp a FF) seem to stay higher and remain more consistent. 3) As the babies mature, I can better select the doeling(s) that best fit our breeding program. Not to mention, we get to study the strengths & weaknesses of the sire, as the kids pass through the various stages. It is to your best interest (not to mention the integrity of our breeding program), that the First Freshener has a great first lactation as possible. So, its entirely possible, unless the mama weans her own kids, many of our doelings will not be available for a large portion of their dam's 305 Test. 


We are very proud that several of our does (and now their daughters) have earned Superior Genetics designation, as well as become ADGA ELITE status. Each year, there are those who want to criticize the SG program, stating that many of the animals awarded aren't as high quality as their show stock. I beg to differ, but will not do so in an open forum. I choose to "prove" our girls otherwise---by raising goats who score high in LA and DHIR. Because we take our Milk Testing serious, we consider our does on Test to be "high performance" animals, feeding and housing them in a quality manner. We pour over the Linear Appraisal charts, and pray (a lot) for Wisdom & direction. Not only on breedings, but also on who to sell...and to whom. We are careful on who purchases progeny from our dairy lines. It brings us a lot of comfort when we sell to farms that participate in Milk Testing---as well as LA. We also will no longer sell a doe who has raised her own babies to a farm who opts raise/sell bottle babies. This paragraph is not intended to start a debate of dam raising vs bottle-fed. There are merits to both philosophies. I just cannot, in good conscience, know that one of my experienced mamas will have her babies taken from her in future kiddings. Not when she already knows what its like to be a good mama. 


If you have any questions, please contact me....God's BLESSINGS be yours.